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GBC guru admits Great Guru Hoax, Part 3

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GBC guru admits Great Guru Hoax, Part 3

Back to Prabhupada, Issue 20, Summer 2008

Following the revelation in our last issue of the Great Guru Hoax, Part 3 (where the position of diksa [initiating] guru is re-defined like a ritvik [officiating priest], or someone uses a ritvik position to get benefits like a diksa guru), we present herein another example of this phenomenon in action. The following is an explanation of “guru-tattwa” from GBC voted-in guru HH Hanumatpresaka Swami (“HPS”), taken from his website at http://www.jayarama.us/archives/guru-tattwa.txt [rev. 19 April 2008], archived May 4th, 2008:

“Who is the Diksa-guru, you or Prabahupada?
**Answer depends on what you mean by Diksa guru. If you mean the person who chants on the beads and gives the name and makes the promise with his own lips that by chanting your prescribed number of rounds you are guaranteed to advance to the highest platform of Uttama-adhikari**, then we are the
Diksa-guru.”

Here HPS re-defines a diksa Guru as basically being a ritvik, a person who helps conduct the initiation ceremony on behalf of the diksa Guru.
Many of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples were initiated having never even met Srila Prabhupada, but rather had a ritvik representative chant on their beads, and after July 9th, 1977, also give them a name. And at the initiation fire yajna (ceremony), usually conducted by the temple president, a vow was made to chant 16 rounds and follow the 4 regulative principles, and in this way the person would advance spiritually. Paradoxically, in the same article, HPS also gives the correct definition of a diksa guru:

Srila Prabhupada
**Srila Prabhupada:
The real diksa guru

**HPS
HH Hanumatpresaka Swami: Pretending to be a diksa guru

Please chant: Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna, Krishna, Hare, Hare,
Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama, Rama, Hare, Hare.
And be Happy!

Please chant: Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna, Krishna, Hare, Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama, Rama, Hare, Hare. And be Happy!

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